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Remembering Will

by SlayerLayer in

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24 years ago

i didn't really know these people that well.

i was only ten.

we were at their house eating dinner, one sunday after the meeting.

24 years ago

You Know 24 years ago

I'll bet you were quite the little tattle tail as a child.

I think your losing it here a little bit man. Try and get a grip and pull yourself together.

You think you have all the answers.

That's true. When it comes to matters of my faith I make it a point to get the right answers. Is there something wrong with that?

You "have no clue who I am or idea of my level of intelligence.

That's true. I really have no interest in your personal affairs one way or the other. For some bizarre reason though you seem to be obssessing with my private life. Why is that?

As long as it has something to do with "you", you think you have nothing to learn.

Huh?

So what, you might have done a little heroin and now your a green bible thumper. Codependency is codependency no mater what your preferred drug is.

For your info, I thump the brown colored reference Bible. LOL

If I ever get bored enough to respond to another one of your narrow-minded little bits of drivel I'll be sure and give you some dotted lines to help you in your little cut and paste game.

Whatever.

Only a fool thinks they know it all and has noting to learn, but there is no telling you that because, "you know it all".

I don't claim to know everything, I just know from experince that there is nothing an apostate can teach me about the truth. Prove me wrong.

You have no clue about how stupid you make yourself look, but that doesn't matter to you does it?

No, it doesn't matter to me at all. Apostates revile and ridicule all my brothers. So, it's just something that goes with the territory. I am sure if you could get your hands on Christ you would do the same to him too---worse probably.

You know more than any apostate and you know more then your governing body members. You must be quite the little god.

So deal with it! LOL

As long as you keep your conversations centered in your little green bible world you feel all safe and dry like a good little tot.

Why this childish obsession with the color of my Bible? Did you ever actually get past the outer covering of your Bible? I don't get it.

Only an idiot can refuse to see that you have replaced one form of escapism with another. You abuse the bible just as you abused your drugs. It's the same thing, just different packages.

That's true. Once back in my druggy days I ran out of rolling papers so I ripped a page out of the ole King James Bible that happened to be laying on this guy's coffe table, not the Green one, and rolled a joint with it. LOL

If it's not a needle in your vain its a bible in your brain.

Hey, I like that. Kind of snappy sounding. Don't you mean "vein" though instead of "vain"?

BTW "You Know it All", my name is Dave, what's yours?

Robert.

Are you too afraid your masters will find out you are playing this game?

My Master knows where I play and what I do.

You are such a spineless coward. Why should you be afraid of anyone knowing who you are? Someone as smart as you shouldn't be afraid of anything. Come on big mouth, tell me your real name, or are you as much of a coward as you are an idiot?

You really are losing it. Everyone in Apostatedom knows my name. And judging by your vicious disposition I suppose I should be afraid.

/ You Know

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Remembering Will

by SlayerLayer in

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24 years ago

i didn't really know these people that well.

i was only ten.

we were at their house eating dinner, one sunday after the meeting.

24 years ago

You Know 24 years ago

That statement alone shows your supreme, arrogant, unadulterated, ignorance. 'nuff said.

It was a legitimate question. Job essentially said the same thing to his apostate accusers. Read Job 13:2. / You Know

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Remembering Will

by SlayerLayer in

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24 years ago

i didn't really know these people that well.

i was only ten.

we were at their house eating dinner, one sunday after the meeting.

24 years ago

You Know 24 years ago

I have pretty much quit posting on this board because I grew tired of people popping into a thread that was starting to give comfort or share a honest feeling and then have some self righteous self absorbed nobody like you trash it.

Just when I thought my posts were to no effect. Well, I suppose then that I can measure success in some small way.

You are the biggest apostate on this board. You are the original wolf in sheep's clothing.

YAWN.

You have nothing better to do then to sit around in your empty meaningless life and write sermons to people who only laugh at you.

You don't seem to be laughing. LOL

The story of Will can be completely understood by most people on this board

I completely understand Will's story. I was once a herion user and came close to destroying myself many times. The truth saved me and it could have saved him too if he had been a little smarter.

Yes the Watchtower society instills that feeling and is completely responsible for the outcome. It's mind control at its best.

Well it must not be working on most of us. Most Witnesses I know have a greater sense of self worth and accomplishment than the average non-Witness. If anyone's mind has been controled it is the apostate's. Your accusations are not based in reality at all.

There are hundreds of thousands of JW's that drink to the point of stupidity and take prescription drugs to cope with their depression. The only difference between the JW's and the non-JWs is the JW's lie about it, and they believe their own lies.

Yeah, right. And just how do you know what hundreds of thousands of people do, especially if they all lie?

As most negative and true things put in front of your face concerning your beloved religion you deny their existence. You believe only what you choose to believe.

Why should I believe the ravings of apostate fools and lunatics or let them destroy my faith?

Your limited knowledge about anything outside of the JW world shows your true ignorance.

Really? Just what can you teach me that I don't already know?

Human psychology on why some people do what they do and what causes it is far too deep of a subject for you to comprehend.

That's hilarious man. Some moron wants to blame the Watchtower for all the world's ills, what do I need to understand about psychology?

You are so impressed with yourself that you are blinded by you own stupidity. You serve no purpose in life except to try and gain some recognition as a lonely little man.

What I understand about how you people behave is this: Typically, when an apostate can't argue their point Scripturally, whichvery few of you can, then you strike out at personalities. Generally apostates take the high-low approach, whereby the ankle-biters go for the pant legs and others go for the head in a psudeo psycho approach. I really do find it amusing. Does that make be a bad person? LOL

Well, you have accomplished that goal, you are a pee stain on the carpet of life and your odor continues to identify you for who you really are.

Whose acting childish here? That's pitiful man.

You think you are an intelligent person and in a few applications you have a limited expertise, but in the overall picture you are an idiot savant with a narrow and fixed focus on one single speck of insignificant self proclamation.

I gotta print this out. This is some great stuff.

If there wasn't so many watchtower publications for you to quote from you wouldn't have a single thought in your little mind. You have probably never had an original or helpful thought in your life.

Your pop gun is starting to sputter here pal. I rarely quote from the Watchtower. In fact you can't point to any post where I quote the Wt. That's why apostates are ill-equipped to deal with me on a Scriptural basis because I DON'T use the Watchtower. And that's all you have been taught. So, when it gets down to the real stuff, the Bible, you are clueless pretty much.

You have absolutely no concept of what goes on in a persons heart or mind beyond you own sheltered little life.

You are a pretty presumptuous fellow. And you imagine that you know me just by what I post on this little forum? I have been deeper into the world than any of you could possibly ever be. I know how it works inside out. That's why I frustrate you so badly because I am always one step ahead of you because I know how you think. I have read all your arguments, there's nothing left for me at this point but to have a little fun with you.

You sense of compassion is neatly packaged and stored in your countless JW books and magazines. It only comes out when it fits into a thought that someone else came up with and you claim as your own. You claim to be one of the anointed putting yourself up on a pedestal for you to revel in your own self worth. That's quite a joke.

Yes. It is a joke. But you don't get it apparently. LOL

You are a self appointed comic book super hero with the power to bore people to death. Your constant scripture quoting and interpreting screams out the level of your insecurity.

I think you've been reading too many comic books.

Your gentle bashing of your beloved watchtower society only strengths your position of a self serving
apostate in complete denial of reality. You are nothing more than a lonely pathetic little man who craves attention weather it be positive or negative

Obviously my applying certain prophecies to the Watchtower has completely unnerved you. You have bought into the whole apostate thing so completely, hook, line, and sinker, as the expression goes, that is obviously frightens you very badly the thought that the Great God Jehovah foretold the present situation developing and what it's outcome will be. Your reaction is basically to put your hands over your ears and start screaming hysterically about You Know being a bad guy.

I usually don't respond to anything you say because I recognize you for what you are.

You don't respond to anything I say because you obviously don't have any intelligent response. This post included.

I just happen to be in a little bit of a mood today and your heartless ignorance just pissed me off a little.

Just because I don't let myself be manipulated by some idiot doesn't mean I am ignorant or heartless.

I'm sorry I responded to You Knows comment but I just had to say how I felt.

It's been fun. I hope you feel better about yourself. Let's do it again sometime.

/ You Know

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Remembering Will

by SlayerLayer in

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24 years ago

i didn't really know these people that well.

i was only ten.

we were at their house eating dinner, one sunday after the meeting.

24 years ago

You Know 24 years ago

Is it really any wonder that we blame the Watch Tower for Will's sad suicide?

No, it's no wonder at all. You are an apostate after all. What else CAN you do? Let's don't forget that the Bible calls apostates the "accursed children" and points out how they are "complainers about their lot in life." Yes, of course it was the Watchtower's fault that poor Will turned his back on everything Jehovah had taught him and got caught up in the Devil's world and was destroyed. Poor Will had no control over his life. He was just another hapless victim of the Watchtower. / You Know

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Remembering Will

by SlayerLayer in

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24 years ago

i didn't really know these people that well.

i was only ten.

we were at their house eating dinner, one sunday after the meeting.

24 years ago

You Know 24 years ago

Could you BE more of an insensitive prick?

I thought I was being generous with the walnut comparison, judging by your reasoning ability a chickpea is probably a closer approximation to the actual size. LOL / You Know

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Remembering Will

by SlayerLayer in

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24 years ago

i didn't really know these people that well.

i was only ten.

we were at their house eating dinner, one sunday after the meeting.

24 years ago

You Know 24 years ago

Some guy defies all good sense and goes out and wastes himself on dope and booze and basically kills himself, and you blame the Watchtower for his failure? You must have a walnut for a brain is all that I can say. / You Know

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JW Organization On Autopilot

by AlanF in

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24 years ago

these days it's pretty clear that the jw organization is running on autopilot.

charles taze.

russell, joe booze rutherford, nathan knorr and freddie franz all had a certain amount of vision.

23 years ago

You Know 24 years ago

No slander about old Boozy, Booby. Old Joe were a very bad boy. Full documentation will come out in several books
during the next couple of years.

Yeah, right, sure, whatever. No doubt the reason the slanderers start speading that male bovine manure so thickly years after the man died is because the people that knew him best are all long gone, so anyone can basically make up anything they want. Like I said, if he would have really been that notorious, as you say, his enemies would not have waited for over a half century. They would have exposed him long ago.

I like your term "Watchtowerite". It certainly describes at least 90% of JWs.

Yes, it does describe those who have a religion but not a living faith. The thing is though, that at the time of Christ, his early disciples were very much under the influence of the Pharisees. In other words: they had a religion that had to be discarded. They remained more or less under that influence all during Jesus' time on earth. But, when he was suddenly taken from them, much to their surprise, it was a wake-up call for them, which they responded to. So too, when things blow up for us, sure it will come as a shock to Jehovah's Witnesses, but those who are devoted to God will regather themselves, taking stock of the situation, and then respond accordingly in the new environment of the judgment period.

Of course, a lot of the problem with JWs is that their preaching has nothing to do with anything the Bible actually says. They preach about a kingdom that they once claimed came to power in 1874. When it became evident that that was nonsense, they figured out some more nonsense and began preaching about an invisible, do-nothing kingdom supposedly established in 1914.

That was also the exact situation the apostles found themselves in. They had imagined that the kingdom was going to be an earthly re-establishment of David's throne in Jerusalem. They were wrong. Apparently, even when they went out to preach that the kingdom had drawn near, they had that misconception that Jesus let remain until afeter his resurrection, when he finally enlightened them. They basically had to throw out everything they belived about the kingdom and start over. We will similarly jettison all the errors and false expectations we have been saddled with for so long. But, that will obviously be the means that Jehovah uses to sift the chaff out of the organization in preparation for his final blessing upon his faithful ones.

As for your application of Isaiah to today, it has as little value as applying the notion that in "just a little while longer the wicked one will be no more".

You are the one that noted the stagnation of the organization. I pointed to a prophecy that foretold that very condition. That is extremely relevant. The fact is the kingdom of God has really overtaken you without you quite realizing it---yet. That part will take a little while longer. LOL / You Know

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JW Organization On Autopilot

by AlanF in

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24 years ago

these days it's pretty clear that the jw organization is running on autopilot.

charles taze.

russell, joe booze rutherford, nathan knorr and freddie franz all had a certain amount of vision.

23 years ago

You Know 24 years ago

Eventually this mindset leads to organizational stagnation. That is certainly where the JW organization is now.

Aside from all that rubbish and slander about Rutherford, it is obvious that God's organization has become stagnant. The prophecy of Isaiah the 28th chapter foretold that such a thing would occur. Verse one describes the organization as "the fading blosom of its decoration of beauty." In other words the bloom is off the rose, as the saying goes. I think that is an exacting portrait that God had long ago painted that reveals the condition of his people in the days immediately before his judgment is leveled against us. And, as the prophecy goes on to relate, it is Jehovah's determination to discard the physical apparatus of the organization by having it annihilated by earthly forces, so that Jehovah himself becomes "a crown of decoration and as a garland of beauty to the ones remaining over of his people..." That is basically the way the Almighty dealt with Israel, in that after the nation produced Christ it was discarded and only a faithful remnant made the transition into the new organization of spiritual Israel.

So, it stands to reason that once the good news of the kingdom is preached to Jehovah's satisfaction, in advance of Christ's arrival, that once Jesus does arrive and all hell breaks loose, as the saying goes, then the organizational structure that was built to sponser that work and equip the small army of preachers will become expendable. Indeed, as I have pointed out many times over the years, the Watchtower can and will go out of the printing business at the earliest erupting crisis that collapses the financial system. That singular event that brings the present system down in a heap will signal the commencement of the judgment phase of God's purpose. By the time the judgment concludes Jehovah's organization will be reduced to a remnant who truly have faith in God and Christ. Those who are faithless and mere followers of men, "Watchtowerites" as I have dubbed them, will be winnowed out during the holocaust, when Jehovah rocks the heavens and the earth one last time.

ROCK ON! / You Know

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For JWs: Proof! --Jesus' Return In First Century!

by bjc2012 in

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24 years ago

these words were translated as either presence [parousia], coming [echomai] or arrival [eltho] in the new world translation.

but all we are saying is that the word ...can, can, can mean "coming", a simple "coming" of a person.

we remember jesus christ made an initial visit, or had a first coming, to inspect the temple for god, as the messenger of the covenant.

24 years ago

You Know 24 years ago

The "End" here Paul is referring to clearly, obviously, literally means the "END" of all human ruled earthly systems...that's it. That's all it can mean. It cannot the "end of the millenium" as you and the WTS have suggested, since Paul includes human "governments, authorities" and "rulerships" being "brought to nothing." And that certainly DOES NOT occur at the "end" of the millenium, the 1,000 year reign of peace.

Your error is in assuming that the governments refer to the present human governments. In fact it doesn't mention HUMAN governments at all. That is something of your own contrivance. Paul spoke of the wicked cosmocrats as the real unseen government and authorities, and also death and sin are referred to as kings that have ruled over mankind. So it is that governing authority of the demons and sin and death that is gradually brought to nothing by Jesus' rule. You are much mistaken. You really have no business trying to teach others something that you obviously don’t have a grasp of yourself. There is really no point in my proceeding any further in overturning your twisted reasonings. / You Know

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For JWs: Proof! --Jesus' Return In First Century!

by bjc2012 in

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24 years ago

these words were translated as either presence [parousia], coming [echomai] or arrival [eltho] in the new world translation.

but all we are saying is that the word ...can, can, can mean "coming", a simple "coming" of a person.

we remember jesus christ made an initial visit, or had a first coming, to inspect the temple for god, as the messenger of the covenant.

24 years ago

You Know 24 years ago

I only read down to a certain point on your post, but that was far enough for me. You are way out in left field as far as your interpretation of 1 Corinthians 15. The "end" that Paul was talking about is not the end of this system of things, but rather the end of Christ's 1,000-year kingdom. The Watchtower certainly doesn't teach that. Paul plainly said that the "end" is when Christ hands over the kingdom to Jehovah. You obviously are much confused. / You Know

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